Comments on: Be Careful What You Ask For: Voice Control https://hackaday.com/2025/02/19/be-careful-what-you-ask-for-voice-control/ Fresh hacks every day Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:58:19 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Wim Ton https://hackaday.com/2025/02/19/be-careful-what-you-ask-for-voice-control/#comment-8102984 Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:58:19 +0000 https://hackaday.com/?p=759066#comment-8102984 There is a nice Youtube video about 2
Scotsmen trying to control a voice controlled elevator.

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By: Titus431 https://hackaday.com/2025/02/19/be-careful-what-you-ask-for-voice-control/#comment-8102940 Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:20:57 +0000 https://hackaday.com/?p=759066#comment-8102940 In reply to David Newton.

This is great information.

Unfortunately, you haven’t generalised about how people with different skin colours don’t understand or interact with technology appropriately. Then move on to nationality and sexuality. Finally, make sure to explain how political and religious beliefs affect individual use of technology. /s

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By: HaHa https://hackaday.com/2025/02/19/be-careful-what-you-ask-for-voice-control/#comment-8102719 Tue, 25 Feb 2025 01:56:21 +0000 https://hackaday.com/?p=759066#comment-8102719 In reply to I Alone Possess The Truth.

In a smooth interior container you can get well over 100.
To the point it’s dangerous.
Always scratch the inside of a new brazil press if you plan on using a microwave to heat it.
Otherwise adding grounds can be good fun.0

A computer that can synthesize any food, can deliver 130C tea.
But you don’t want it to.

If there were food synthesizers, there would be food synthesizer hacker/trolls.
Sooner or later, everybody is eating Surstroming, until a key is cracked, then Lutfisk.

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By: HaHa https://hackaday.com/2025/02/19/be-careful-what-you-ask-for-voice-control/#comment-8102716 Tue, 25 Feb 2025 01:47:43 +0000 https://hackaday.com/?p=759066#comment-8102716 In reply to andarvb.

‘Make me good looking.’

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By: David Newton https://hackaday.com/2025/02/19/be-careful-what-you-ask-for-voice-control/#comment-8102140 Sun, 23 Feb 2025 13:01:57 +0000 https://hackaday.com/?p=759066#comment-8102140 Odd isn’t it? Voice control is sold as the be all and end all but, once again, it singularly & consistently fails to deliver in any meaningful way: by which I mean reliably & consistently.

With all of the neurons being applied to this issue, I cannot but help asking why just a few haven’t been applied to the very premise that voice is the only answer. Has no one taken the time to even scratch the surface of what is involved in voice communications? Patently not, as even with many of my own neuros fried by too many late nights, too much loud music, over consumption of alcohol and general abuse, even I appreciate & understand that voice is just a single element within a plethora of others within audible communications.

For example: normal mature human beings instantly understand how inflection, emphasise, tone & pace is occasionally used to instantly turn the simple spoken negative word ‘No’ into the most affirmative of ‘Yeses’ & vice versa.

To me, the simplest, most inclusive, interface ever devised is one I invented. It consists of just two physically different & lit buttons coupled with audio for instruction and feedback. It requires NO instructions & so is suitable for those of limited vision as well as those of limited cognitive abilities such as early onset dementia.

Current interfaces are designed by 25-40 year old males FOR, sadly, 25-40 year old males. In most western societies that group represents just 10% of the population (UK it’s 10.06%). What that means is that stuff is being designed to exclude over 70% of the rest of society. BTW for those about to argue with my maths, the rest are children. Men design essentially mathematical interfaces. Women hate mathematical interfaces and find them hard work to use. The general confidence of people begins to decline once past 55. By that I mean the confidence to engage with the unfamiliar not their core skills. Even worse, older men (65 plus) consistently “exaggerate” their technical competence around their spouses. Post 70 years of age, generally ones cognitive abilities begin to decline too.

When I talk about this, everyone tries to justify current design by talking about user & focus group testing. The truth is, user & focus groups are a literal waste of time. In the real world, your Mr Average or Ms Miggins is no extrovert. Neither are they particularly introverted. They just want to get on, get by in life. People who join user & focus groups ALL feel superior to others. They are ALL either opinionated or simply there for the money. The press their own agenda or they promote a view that gets them the best ROI on their time. In these groups, unlike the real world, there are zero consequences for wrong or poor decision making so no pressure. No one ever in a user or focus group had to go with out dinner because they’d pressed the wrong button on the heating control, they didn’t understand, so it ran 24/7!!

My apologies dear reader for wittering on but perhaps some of those involved in tech might one day take the time to look at how people behave and prove why before deciding on the very next bessestest thing ever…

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By: T J https://hackaday.com/2025/02/19/be-careful-what-you-ask-for-voice-control/#comment-8102056 Sun, 23 Feb 2025 07:03:42 +0000 https://hackaday.com/?p=759066#comment-8102056 In reply to CampGareth.

IKEA have some of them that work well with HA: https://www.ikea.com/au/en/p/somrig-shortcut-button-white-smart-90560346/

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By: Stephen Keller https://hackaday.com/2025/02/19/be-careful-what-you-ask-for-voice-control/#comment-8101894 Sat, 22 Feb 2025 19:01:24 +0000 https://hackaday.com/?p=759066#comment-8101894 In reply to Ostracus.

Exactly, a macro which should require no Al beyond voice recognition. The badge would have Picard’s personal info, which would easy be sensed by his proximity to a replicator. This certainly doesn’t require an LLM to do any of the work.

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