Comments on: High Detail 3D Printing With An Airbrush Nozzle https://hackaday.com/2018/10/01/high-detail-3d-printing-with-an-airbrush-nozzle/ Fresh hacks every day Thu, 24 Sep 2020 02:05:21 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Jeff W. https://hackaday.com/2018/10/01/high-detail-3d-printing-with-an-airbrush-nozzle/#comment-6280734 Thu, 24 Sep 2020 02:05:21 +0000 http://hackaday.com/?p=326872#comment-6280734 In reply to Thom.

He said line width in the video, and he’s 100% correct. Minimum layer height is limited by your z steppers and extruder, and can generally go as low as you can smear out more plastic. In practical terms that’s about 0.1mm for a well tuned consumer grade printer. Commercial printers may perform much better than that.

Line width is constrained by the outer surface width of the nozzle for maximum width (typically about 2x stated nozzle diameter, though that won’t be the case for these airbrush nozzles), to the inner orifice diameter for minimum width.

The final print resolution is a combination of how line width and layer height. It’s not usually worth going below half the layer height of your minimum line width (i.e. nozzle diameter), because your poor x/y resolution will overshadow your good z resolution.

It takes both to make nice prints.

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By: JRDM https://hackaday.com/2018/10/01/high-detail-3d-printing-with-an-airbrush-nozzle/#comment-6155962 Tue, 11 Jun 2019 21:31:41 +0000 http://hackaday.com/?p=326872#comment-6155962 In reply to Thom.

OK I misunderstood, I misread your comment about layer height as bead width. But I’m pretty sure the original comment was about bead width. There isn’t a minimum layer height vs. orifice. The real limiting factor is really bead width and that’s what a ‘smaller nozzle’ really allows.

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By: JRDM https://hackaday.com/2018/10/01/high-detail-3d-printing-with-an-airbrush-nozzle/#comment-6155778 Tue, 11 Jun 2019 14:16:47 +0000 http://hackaday.com/?p=326872#comment-6155778 In reply to Thom.

Either your wording or your facts are wrong. It’s trivial to make your maximum bead width to be double the orifice diameter. I don’t know if there’s a maximum but it’s worth swapping nozzles for something larger before you get to double.

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By: keszthelyi Laszlo https://hackaday.com/2018/10/01/high-detail-3d-printing-with-an-airbrush-nozzle/#comment-5244191 Tue, 09 Oct 2018 12:06:14 +0000 http://hackaday.com/?p=326872#comment-5244191 In reply to Jeffeb3.

I think anybody didnt wondering about if the nozle hole shaped not like rount but somthing a bit more oval or very thin rectangular may have more fine details on the part.
but be avare of my messege coz it all ready an intelectual copyright idea from me.

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By: Steve123 https://hackaday.com/2018/10/01/high-detail-3d-printing-with-an-airbrush-nozzle/#comment-5235405 Sun, 07 Oct 2018 13:26:04 +0000 http://hackaday.com/?p=326872#comment-5235405 In reply to Jeffeb3.

+1 for the “E3D Pro sock”. My prints were terrible before I added this. And make sure you get the Pro sock because the other one does NOT cover the nozzle.

I’d be interested to see the results of a Pro sock in addition to this modified airbrush nozzle.

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By: Thom https://hackaday.com/2018/10/01/high-detail-3d-printing-with-an-airbrush-nozzle/#comment-5219222 Sat, 06 Oct 2018 04:56:32 +0000 http://hackaday.com/?p=326872#comment-5219222 In reply to Elliot Williams.

At core, the problem is the numeric relationship is reversed. That is, he’s saying the smallest reproducible feature/line height is no smaller than the nozzle bore diameter. But, we all know this is specifically untrue. Very often the MAXIMUM extrudate that can be put out by a nozzle is ~80-90/% of the nozzle bore diameter, and the nominal diameter is in the 40-60% range. Those values are, by definition, smaller than the bore diameter, in opposition to the comparative direction in the quote.

Unfortunately, as you try and reword the original, it all falls apart. But, the logical truth of the paint-roller does make sense. It just isn’t related to the numeric bore diameter in the manner indicated. It’s not the “nozzle size”, it’s more the “nozzle’s minimum unbroken thread diameter combined with Nyquist-style motion-system resolution (and other variables, like system flex, top-surface defects, etc.).” See…the pithy shortness kinda falls apart.

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By: Elliot Williams https://hackaday.com/2018/10/01/high-detail-3d-printing-with-an-airbrush-nozzle/#comment-5211696 Fri, 05 Oct 2018 09:36:44 +0000 http://hackaday.com/?p=326872#comment-5211696 In reply to Alex.

What do you mean? How is it wrong? Elaborate.

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